
10-18-2006, 12:03 PM
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Margaret12
Let no one thing, or any person stop your goals and dreams. Music cannot be taken away. Not since Gabriel sounded his horn has it become lessened by demand of the majority of the world's population. Austria has wonderful programs in Music, and they are disciplined. Much to the contrary of the TOUCHY FEELY methodology of the U.S. by the embracing of the new Rave for Strings Pedagogy . As a public school teacher, in the U.S. we are being required to complete all levels of a method that only emphazises 5 notes, This is the K@#$al#&Y method for voice. Equally demeaning to the discipline for the study of Stringed fine instruments is A NEW TOUCHY FEELY METHOD that is spreading like a ground fire With restraint I fail to referencing the proper name of this Strings Pedagogy out of respect for others, and to not offend anyone on this Forum. But stay determined, disciplined and unstoppable. All this can be done without giving up any thing one your age might think they are missing as a teenager. And when you have your U.S. debut in a few years let us know, many of us will be there
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10-18-2006, 12:59 PM
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Gueen 500 and jeeViola
Being one that seems to play both Viola and Violin in different groups weekly I have researched Viola Strings with a predisposed prejudice for Evah Priz. Of course on my Violin I mix and match with a Stark E and A, a medium for D and the weich (weak) for the G. I still have no preferrence over the Perlon E and the Jauguar flat wound E. This summer Ken from Donley Violin Shoppe in N.C. sent me a trial violin to get my opinion and it was strung with the newer Obligatos. I went full head into the Zyex D'adarrio product two years ago. What I found was the Zyex are rich well made perlon core, but I thought they over-compensatied on the playability side, (I.E. when brought to tune the E and A are just too spongy, which may be great for beginners and intermediate learners). For the Advanced and Semi-Pro levels both of you have attained I am sure you feel more comfortable with these strings on your Viola. I am in fact using the Obligato's on my Viola, with a mix of course of a C weich, G and D medium and an A Stark, but again will often change to a Jauguar A a week before a performance for peices that require more melody and faster arpegggios. But as I mentioned to jeeViola, I am in the market to upgrade my Viola; What is ya'lls feel about the spongyness or trampoline effect of the Zyex on the upper register on the Viola (I am truly looking for advise and have no experience with this product on the Viola). I am flirting with VZM's consistent recommendation for the Perlon core Corellis. But I know the other two brands well and at $40-60 a set, and being from Texas, "If it ain't Broke don't Fix it". By the way, "fall ye not into the depths of tempation by the brazeness of the money changers that annouced in the courtyards of the world about the Virtue of the new Vision Viola strings" 1st Ross, chap. 2, v. 12-16 Now don't get offended YSM
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11-06-2006, 08:45 PM
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My History and my Viola: (I wrote this up 2 years ago.0
"I am 49 and I started playing the Violin when I was 8 (1963). I stopped playing after my Freshman year in High School because there was nothing for strings in High School.
I picked it up again my Sophomore year in college (1974) which involved a few quarters of private lessons and school orchestra.
In 1984 I decided to join my church orchestra but this time I wanted to switch to Viola.
I found a 15.25” factory Roth at a store in Seattle for $250 (closeout).
I spent about a year playing some wedding gigs with a group from my church.
In 1991 I stared playing with the local Symphony as well as at church.
I played with them for 12 years. The symphony was and is quite ambitious which made them quite greedy of my time. I am not (nor will I ever) be a professional musician.
After 20 years with the little Roth Viola I decided to upgrade.
I found Gliga Violas for sale on ebay which looked wonderful and were reasonably priced. Upon inquiry I learned that theses violas could be tried out in a shop in Pasadena. I would never buy a viola without playing it first.
I went in looking for the Gliga Maestro Viola in the 16” to 16.5” range.
After playing all that they had my wife suggested that I try the 17”.
What a difference! I love the sound and the feel. It is set up with Zyex heavy strings. I have always used Dominants. I have owned the Gliga for a year now and I have had lots of complements on how nice it sounds (from violinists no less).
I think I will stick with the Zyex but I might try a Jargar A string."
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11-06-2006, 08:48 PM
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Here is an article about the maker of my viola:
"Monday, Aug. 25, 2003
Romanian String Section
One man's mission to bring affordable, high-quality violins to the world
ByANGELA LEUKER/VIENNA
Vasile Gliga is lost in concentration as he examines a beautifully made copy of a 1715 Stradivarius. Then his cell phone rings, spoiling the moment. That's the problem with running a business. Gliga has little time for what he loves best: the centuries-old craft of violin making. His 10-year-old violin-making company, known simply as the Gliga Group, is one of Romania's most successful family-owned concerns, employing some 1,200 people. "I started with two people making two violins a year. Now I have 500 making 3,000 a month," he says. "I didn't expect it would grow to this." It is a success story that is partly rooted in communism, partly in geography and largely in Gliga's innate skills as an entrepreneur. Violins in his top-of-the-line maestro series change hands for as much as $5,000. The company's sales reached $5 million last year, no small achievement in a limited, saturated market and within a national economy still struggling in the aftermath of 40 years of communism.
It's a difficult market to conquer. There is more mystique surrounding violins than any other musical instrument, and customers want an item of beauty as well as excellent tonal quality. "No two violins sound the same," says Gliga general manager Sandu Stroe. "Like people, each one is unique." Instruments made in Italy in the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries by the legendary Amati, Guarneri and Stradivari families sell for millions, even as musicians and dealers argue passionately about the superiority of originals over modern copies.
The link between past and present is the special spruce and maple wood of the Transylvanian forests near the Gliga factory in Reghin. It is a resource so prized by violin makers that the nearby Gurghiului Valley is commonly known as Italian valley, after the luthiers who are said to have journeyed there from Cremona, Italy, the home of the masters, in search of perfect wood. According to Gliga, who grew up in the valley, the critical ingredient is the abundance of flamed maple (also called curly sycamore), the strikingly grained wood of choice for the back of violins. More specifically, it's an aberration normally found in only one in a thousand sycamores, whose wavy fibers produce exceptional resonance. The Gliga factory has immediate access to this vital resource and in Vasile Gliga a keen and experienced eye. "When I see a log, I automatically know how many violins I can get out of it," he says. Each stack of spruce or maple is tagged with details of the year it was cut and the specific part of the instrument in which it will be used. Wood is aged up to six years. As with fine wines, the final product achieves depth and flavor with maturity.
Communism's contribution to Gliga's success was the party's inability to set up a violin factory in Bucharest. The capital's facility was closed, and Reghin became the only town in the country where violins were made. As a result, the experts are all still there. "Skilled workmanship imbues a violin with special characteristics," says Gliga. He believes the unique qualities of the local wood coupled with the skill of his work force mean Gliga instruments can successfully compete with those being made by long-established European companies.
There are, Gliga says, 200 steps involved in producing high-quality violins. Apart from the initial millwork, Gliga violins are handmade with tools often fashioned by the artisans themselves for the delicate shaping and carving of the instrument. Using teams of three or four people, each specialized in one step of the process, the Gliga factory can maximize its output while maintaining high quality. That teamwork is a variation on the accepted manufacturing theme: purists argue that the finest instruments are those made entirely by one master. Gliga says several people working together actually add to a violin's character: "The workers here are like one big family, so many souls working and feeling the wood — processing, carving, polishing, varnishing. I feel like a father to them, and the violin is our newborn baby. Then, in the hands of a musician, it grows up."
Another reason for Gliga's success is more prosaic — the price. The four grades of handcrafted violins (school, student, professional and maestro, ranging from $50 to $1,500 wholesale) are extremely competitive compared with the cheap but poorer quality Chinese-made fiddles currently bagging some 65% of the market or with the sports car — like prices of German and Italian models. Low production costs in Romania give Gliga a competitive edge even though its employees — considered an elite work force — earn twice the national average of $100 a month.
Vasile Gliga has come a long way since his first, illicit foray into business. While employed by Reghin's state-owned violin factory in the 1980s, he secretly made an instrument for himself at home. In 1990, following the Romanian revolution, he sold it to a dealer in the West. The $2,000 price, an undreamed-of fortune, not only bought him a secondhand auto, it also prompted a decision. Frustrated by what he calls the "old-style communist-worker mentality" ingrained in his factory colleagues, he quit his job, calculating that he and his wife, working from home, could build two Strad-style violins a month and support their family. A year later he began setting up his own factory.
Today his business produces nearly 40,000 instruments annually--99% for export, with more than half going to the U.S. Only 20% are stamped with the Gliga label. The remainder are sold blank to wholesalers for distribution under other brand names, one reason Gliga remains relatively unknown.
But that could soon change. Two years ago, Vasile's son Cristian started a U.S.-sales operation based in Pasadena, Calif. It was easier than trying to break into the Old World European market. Says Stroe: "Europe is very conservative, but the U.S. is open minded. We receive orders from there for violins painted with cartoon characters, butterflies or flowers. It's a great way to attract children to play, and we respect that." American customers also do more shopping online, where Gliga-USA now sells its own branded instruments.
There's still a snob factor associated with violins, says Naomi Sadler, editor of the British magazine The Strad. "It's true that old Italian instruments are lovely, but some of the top makers today are also producing incredibly good instruments," she says. While most of the best players will use only an original Cremonese masterpiece, at least one world-famous violinist was impressed by a Gliga instrument. In a 1995 letter to Gliga, Yehudi Menuhin wrote, "Dear and very fine craftsman ... I shall treasure the instrument you made ..." At his headquarters in Reghin, Gliga displays the Menuhin letter with pride, convinced that the reputation of Transylvania as a center of violin-making excellence will eventually be acknowledged. And that maybe then he will be able to return to his workbench. "
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12-10-2010, 02:54 PM
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Viola is a wonderful tool, wonderful, and being able to play is a sign of intelligence in music. Viola is a bit like a violin, but Viola is a bit larger than the violin, the viola has a darker tone than the violin. Take time to learn to play the viola now, and you can enjoy in the coming years
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12-13-2010, 05:36 PM
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After playing all that they had my wife suggested that I try the 17”.
What a difference! I love the sound and the feel. It is set up with Zyex heavy strings. I have always used Dominants. I have owned the Gliga for a year now and I have had lots of complements on how nice it sounds (from violinists no less).
I think I will stick with the Zyex but I might try a Jargar A string." [/QUOTE]
You have a smart wife 
I myself play a 16'' viola and the difference to a violin-size viola is huge. The sound is so much deeper and fuller. I can't even begin to imagine how your instrument must sound.
Regarding the strings: Do the Zyex work out for you? I tried them once but it seemed like they didn't last very long. The g-string broke after a month and the d-string followed soon. If I can make a suggestion: Try the combination A: Larsen, D/G/C: Obligato. In Germany this is a very common comination. The Obligato strings have a soft and full tone but the Obligato A is not that good so people use a Larsen A instead. I personally have been using this combo for years and I wouldn't buy anything else (but then it depends on the instrument also...)
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03-17-2011, 12:21 AM
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Viola
The viola is a bowed string instrument. It is middle voice of the violin between violin and cello. A person plays the viola is called a violist or other words viola player. The difference in size accounts for some of the technical differences as notes are spread out farther along the fingerboard.
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03-21-2011, 05:50 AM
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why play viola?
The viola is a string instrument that is cousin to the violin. It plays at a deeper timber than the violin and is considered an alto to the violin’s soprano.
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04-12-2011, 01:52 PM
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Viola is fun to play in string duets, trios, quartets, & other ensembles, & sounds lovely with all other instruments.The viola makes a stunning, soothing sound.
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04-14-2011, 07:16 PM
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Viola players get college scholarships. One time you can play viola it is simple to play other string instruments like violin, cello, and bass.The viola is light and straightforward to carryover.
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